>>! In T78346#1026966, @Quiddity wrote:
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> Separately, I know there is some amount of local customization of the WikiEditor Toolbar buttons (both individually, and at the wiki-level), but I'm not sure how widespread the individual customizations are, nor how to find out, beyond searching for "addToToolbar" at each wiki in user-space and mediawiki-space. Any suggestions?

IMHO, you'd be doing yourself an injustice if you try to make decisions or draw up plans based on a tally of the "current" numbers or try to apply a "strict" accounting rationale in order to reliably ascertain something like that.

Speaking entirely from the perspective of an Admin primarily focused on the needs and wants of en.wikisource contributors, a vast majority were not entirely thrilled with the //Classic// toolbar to begin with.... but the ease of customizing it to specific needs still makes it near & dear to just about anyone with any decent amount contributing time under their belts even today. And its not entirely true when folks were never "sold" on what the //WikiEditor// initiative(s) promised either.

Most folks by me tried //WikiEditor// when it came off the beta status and immediately hated what they a.) were being forced to load as the "defaults" closely followed by b.) the convoluted process needed just to add customizations to make a.) somewhat bearable. Take those two points and add-in the fact the ProofreadPage extension made life with //WikiEditor// more problematic as time went by and the exodus back to using the //Classic// toolbar is not hard to understand.

So its not that [my] people //won't// or //don't// utilize //WikiEditor// because it "sucks" or something but because -- at its core -- its specifically designed for the never-to-appear-again-in-the-numbers-they-once-did newbie or occasional Wikipedia-geared contributor with Wikipedia-like needs (not the deal-breaker however). What everybody agrees on as the major roadblock is the forcing of 'crap' as defaults nobody will ever use in addition to the inability to remove said defaults nor the customization of buttons & such without jumping through a billion hoops most non-techie types just won't deal with.

Make the current //WikiEditor// defaults an option or User pref with a far more simply way to customize it for individuals and I guarantee you the "opting-in" of the //Classic// toolbar would drop off drastically.