>>! In T45591#1129825, @Spage wrote:
> FWIW the icon is reachable, https://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.25wmf21/resources/lib/oojs-ui/themes/mediawiki/images/icons/help.svg, so `url(../../lib/oojs-ui/themes/mediawiki/images/icons/help.svg)` works. I guess there's no cleaner path to library resources.

True, but we were never doing that in the past (I think we even have duplicate copies of some files used in mediawiki/core, in different directories). We never had `url(…)` paths that refer to parent directory, and I think we should keep it this way, easier to figure out what depends on what.


>> as the work on making the icons available has stalled a bit.
> ?  They're all available if you use OOjs UI ([[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/oojs-ui/oojs-ui/demos/#icons-mediawiki-vector-ltr | cool demo ]]). If we're making them available to non-OOjs UI code I look forward to documenting how-to.

Yes. From T92551: "Map to .mw-icon-<whatever> classes in addition to .oo-ui-icon-<whatever>".

>>! In T45591#1134815, @Nemo_bis wrote:
> * Personally I prefer a more "standard" (i.e. common) blue, but it doesn't matter.
> * VE is not "standard", both are icons taken from extensions and [[https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/language_engineering/cards/410|made by WMF]].

OOjs UI's icons are supposed to become "MediaWiki UI" icons, and thus be pronounced //the// standard ones. There are bumps along the way because the OOjs UI team (subset of WMF Editing) and the MediaWiki UI team (subset of WMF Design) have been disagreeing about which icons should be a part of this set, and how they should be drawn. You can see the current status at https://tools.wmflabs.org/oojs-ui/oojs-ui/demos/#icons-mediawiki-vector-ltr – this has both the old OOjs UI icons (known from VisualEditor) and the new MediaWiki UI icons (known from Flow), and it is quite obvious that these are separate sets. (The 'help' icons comes from the old set, since for some reason it was not considered for including in the new one.) The current status is that Trevor is ~~beating some sens~~working with the designers to iron it out.