['{{outdent}}\n', "I am not a programmer.  (I'm also female.)\n", '\n', 'The RFC was begun by editors at the English Wikipedia.  The WMF has no reason to interfere in their decision to discuss it.  In fact, the WMF is actually interested in their opinions on the matter.  The "number of users" isn\'t so interesting, but the reasons, concerns, and specific problems identified are very interesting, because it helps the devs understand what the most pressing problems are for the real users.\n', '\n', 'NicoV, I think that the devs\' understanding and the community\'s understand of the schedule are very different.  You ask "why was it so urgent?"  As far as I can tell, it wasn\'t rolled out because it was "urgent"; it was rolled out because it was normal to do so at that point in development.  We had discussions here about what features were important to have in place before it was made available to all of our editors here.  We all agreed that VisualEditor could be made available as soon as basic support for refs and templates was available.  These features were added, and therefore it was made available to everyone shortly afterwards.  There was no "rush" or "urgency" to get it out on the devs\' part.  I realize that a software developer\'s idea of "ready" and an end-user\'s idea of "ready" can be very different, but the devs actually thought it was ready (by their definition).  The WMF is not averse to slipping schedules; in fact, if you go read about previous projects, you\'ll see that they have something of a reputation for delivering products late, and this doesn\'t seem to bother them.  So:  why the rush?  There was no rush.  There were only different ideas about what constitutes readiness.\n', '\n', "VisualEditor has not been completely removed for all users at this time for several reasons, which you will find repeated on this and other pages.  Just in case you haven't seen them or did not recognize that these were answers to your question, I offer these brief summaries of several major points:\n", '# Removing VisualEditor means hiding it from new users who have made hundreds of successful edits in VisualEditor and do not know how to use the old markup editor.  "I want to hide this from everyone who is using it" requires a substantially stronger justification than "I want to hide this for my account only".\n', "# The devs need to know what does and doesn't work for thousands of real-world users on thousands of articles, so that they can figure out what effect each small change has.  They need to know how it works, or doesn't, for people working on an enormous variety of articles.  It's useful to know whether it works on a very average article like [[Golden-crowned Sparrow]], but it's also important to find out whether it breaks the very few articles here that uses the {{tl|R}} template system or [[WP:List-defined references]].  It's important to find out [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leukemia&diff=567189014&oldid=566709522 how the table breaks] when someone (quite possibly me) misformats a table.  Real-world experience, with all of the odd combinations of browsers, computers, articles, previous actions, and user skills, is not something that can be achieved with structured testing or by having a few dozen experienced editors opt-in. \n", '# The staff is mostly out of town for the first half of August.  There is essentially a code freeze until the middle of August.  You should not expect anything other than a total, site-completely-down disaster to result in changes before August 15th.\n', "NB that this is not a complete list of reasons, and that in being a summary, some of the nuance and complexity is being lost.  But please notice also that, to the extent that any of these points sound familiar to you—I believe you have personally contested some of these points—then that familiarity is proof that this question has been answered within your 'hearing' already. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 19:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)\n"]