['== Suggested changes ==\n', '\n', "Firstly, I want to say that I and the other members of the VisualEditor team greatly appreciate the interest and time dedicated by members of the community. It's a delight to work on software that people really care about. As a longtime Wikipedian, I am deeply committed to getting this right.\n", '\n', "With that in mind: we hear you. We're reading everything, and discussing daily. You are not being ignored. I read the comments here and throughout the wikis, as does Erik, as does Philippe and his team.\n", '\n', "As background, I strongly suggest that you read Erik's post on [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-July/127331.html the Wikimedia-l mailing list yesterday], which lays out our thinking and in particular on the need to maintain a steady and representative stream of users, not just for reporting bugs, but also to help us validate changes as we make iterations every few days. We cannot develop VisualEditor in isolation from real users.\n", '\n', 'That doesn\'t mean, though, that we need to continue running it in "firehose mode" as the primary editor. Therefore, I\'d like to propose the following changes:\n', '\n', '* We switch the tabs back around so that wikitext editor is more prominent as the "primary" way to edit.\n', '* We also re-label the edit tab and section edit links to further emphasise that VisualEditor is not longer the primary. For instance, we could label them "Edit source" (or "Edit") and "VisualEditor" (or "VisualEditor <sup>beta</sup>") - I\'m not sure what works best here.\n', '* We remove the animation from the section edit links, showing both links all the time (with the VisualEditor link second, like the edit tabs, using the same language).\n', '* We create a prominent notice that comes up when you load VisualEditor for the first time, explaining that the editor is a beta product, and that editors should be prepared for bugs.\n', '\n', 'Also note that it will, of course, continue to be possible to opt-out of VisualEditor using the existing preference, and users who have already done so will not see VisualEditor re-appear.\n', '\n', 'Do you think this would be an helpful way forward?\n', '\n', 'Yours,\n', '\n', '[[User:Jdforrester (WMF)|Jdforrester (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jdforrester (WMF)|talk]]) 01:42, 1 August 2013 (UTC)\n']